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The Lord revealed in Ichoua (on him Peace!) : |
If it were not Mohammad, I will not have created the
Paradise and Fire. |
I created the Throne on water and it was agitated. I
then wrote on him: |
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The Messiah Ichoua wire of Marie (on him Peace !) was he a god, god of a triad, divine filiation ? What was it in comparison with its people ? |
For traditional Islam, the son of Marie is a being created and generated, similar to the remainder of the human ones. Consequently he is God, neither of divine filiation, nor the second nobody of the trinity. He is not the God-man or a God-Man. He is the son of Marie, the virgin, the pure one, the "esclave" of God. Its prophet and messenger near Wire of Israel. The Seal of Prophétes of Israel and the Seal of universal Holiness. All that we invite you to discover it through what follows. Good reading.
The Lord of the Universe said: " I am That which does not need association. " With David (on him Peace!) was revealed
on behalf of its Lord:
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Your criticisms, remarks, reactions : Courriel
Preamble |
Beliefs of traditional Islam on the person of the Messiah wire of Mary (on him Peace !). Who is the Messiah wire of Marie? Coran as the Tradition contain many verses, many texts which speak about the Messiah wire of Marie, her supernatural design in the centre of Marie, the virgin, the pure one, of its marvellous miracles, his/her companions, the hostility of his people in his connection, of its rise, healthy and except, body and heart in the divine Paradise. Of its return among us to the end of time. |
Do the old Writings declare that God or a son of God must go down on the ground ? |
Among people of the Bible, without any doubt.
Also in Celse (IIe S.) to declare to them:
Among the Christians and the Jews, it is which declare that God
or a son of God must go down on the ground to justify the men, the
others, that it already came: so puerile idea in truth which it
is not necessary for a long speech to refute it. Let us take the things moreover higher and reason a little. I do not want to plead any innovation; attaches me to ideas for a long time devoted. God is good, beautiful, happy; he is the sovereign well and the perfect beauty. If it goes down in the world, it will undergo necessarily a change: its beauty will be made ugliness, its happiness misery, its perfection infinity of defects. Who thus would aspire to change kind? A change and a deterioration of this species are undoubtedly incompatible with a nature mortal; but the immortal gasoline remains necessarily identical to itself, immutable. Therefore, such a change could not be appropriate to God. Of two things one: or it is truly and indeed that God changes, as they say, in a mortal body; however, as we have just said it, this is impossible for him; or, without changing nature indeed, it makes so that it appears transformed with those which see it, and then it misleads and it lies. But the fraud and the lie are always worthy of blame, unless one resorts to it as to a remedy to relieve of the sick friends or to the disturbed spirit, or as with one dispatch for débarasser its enemies. But God does not have as friends of sick people and disturbed spirit; and, in addition, it does not fear anybody at the point to be constrained to use of fraud in the danger. [ Jews and Christians évertuent themselves to justify the
Redemption, each one from their own point of view. ] "the world,
say the first, being filled of crimes, it is necessary that God sends
somebody to punish the malicious ones and to wash any stain, as it
occurred formerly at the time of the flood and the destruction of the
tower of Babel" [... ] A that the Christians answer by others
considering: "It is because of the sins of the Jews that the Son
of God was sent on the ground, and those, having made it perish and
having watered gall, unchained on them divine anger" [ What could be
more ridiculous than a similar debate? ] Jewish and Christians
make me the effect of a troop of bat, ants leaving their hole, frogs
established close to a marsh, or worms holding assembled in the corner
of a mud pit and disputing together which between-them are the largest
sinners. Would not believe one to intend these small beasts to
say between them: "It is with us that God reveals and predicts
all things. Rest of the world it does not have cure; it
leaves the skies and the ground to roll to the adventure to occupy
itself only of us. We are the single beings with which it
communicates by messengers, only with which it wishes to bind trade,
because it made us with his image. All us esr subordinated,
ground, water, air and stars; all was done for us and was
intended for our office; and it is because it sometimes happened
at some among us to sin that God will come in person or send his own
Fils to burn the malicious ones and to make us enjoy with him the
eternal life "a similar language would be undoubtedly more bearable of
their share of worms and frogs that it is not it in the argument of
the Jews and the Christians... (Against the
chrériens. 41, 43, 44.. Edict. Phébus). |
For which reason traditional Islam does refute and rejects in block the divinity of the Messiah wire of Marie (Mary) ? |
For several reasons. Among them: |
With what the interpretations do refer they to speak to us about full and whole humanity about the Messiah ? |
With the Koranic texts in particular. But the exégètes think, them, that the supernatural birth
of the Messiah does not justify the divinity of this last.
Indeed, in Coran cett birth is compared with the creation of
Adam, that God forms dust, and this divine act is more marvellous than
the birth of the Messiah of its mother. However, nobody atribue
the divinity with Adam (on him Peace!) (V Coran III 59). |
Do there exist other arguments ? |
The exégètes, we saw it, always refer to the Texts of
Coran and the Tradition (Arab, sounnah). Texts relating to the historical existence of the
Messiah, which prove that this one was a creature, a human being.
It was born, it grew, it became adult... It entered the
world, the history, by the birth, and it passed from childhood at the
ripe age. It took food and it took part in the physical and
material life as the remainder of the human ones. |
According to the Revelation, the Messiah would have spoken to his people with the state about enfançon. The Bible does not mention it. Why ? |
Because of the words of the Messiah to his people:
"I am reallythe slave of God. He gave me the Book (the Gospel) and
designated prophet (cf III 46, VI, 172). |
Which are the reasons scripturaires ? |
We saw that the quality of "slave", of creature, is
confirmed by other Koranic texts, that one can classify as
follows: |
Declarations of the Messiah in Coran. Which are they -? |
Declarations of the Messiah in Coran. |
And declarations on the Messiah ? |
All the declarations proclaim that all belongs to God
alone, all was created by Him, including the Messiah himself who,
consequently, does not have any privilege, does not hold any capacity,
any force, any will and, so God can destroy it completely, as It can
destroy the other creatures of before and after him... |
Which is the Capacity of divine Créateur (Creator) ? |
Capacity of the divine Creator. |
Who is the Ichoua Messiah (on him Peace !) ? |
For traditional Islam, the Messiah Ichoua wire of Marie
(on him Peace!) is and was illustrates it ici-bas as in beyond,
and one of brought closer (Coran III 45). It during all its life
will be assisted by the angel Gabriel (Coran V 109). Will speak
to people about his people to the cradle, then like man having reached
the ripe age (Coran V 110; XIX 29). Prophet and Messenger
of the Saint and Lord of Israel to Wire of Israel (Coran III 49;
V 46; Bible. MT. 5/5-6; 15/24, etc).
Seal of the prophets of Israel and Sceau of universal Holiness.
It accepted the science of the alphabetical letters. Sign
on behalf of its Lord for the worlds, him er his/her mother (Coran XXI
91). It to him will be revealed the Gospel with Séir (Coran XIX
30; Bible. Torah. Dt. 33/2). Among its
miracles, it cures theborn one and the leprous one (Bible I. 9;
MT. 8/1-4). Kneaded clay a figure of bird which
became the bat. Their learned what they ate and what they piled
up in their houses. Ressuscita for them of the characters like
Sem wire of Noah (on him Peace!). The Torah (MT Bible confirmed.
5/17-9), and returned to them sells by auction part of what was
prohibited to them. Its people with the worship and the fear of
God called. With him to obey. |
Which are the dogmatic reasons ? |
The science of Monothéisme provides to the exégètes
reasons and evidence to refute and reject the doctrines of people of
the Gospel of the divinity of the Messiah (on him Peace!).
Examples: |
The doctrines of the divinity of the Messiah would have due his supernatural birth. Is this true ? |
Without any doubt for people of the Gospel. But the exégètes think, them, that the supernatural birth
of the Messiah does not justify the divinity of this last.
Indeed, in Coran this birth is compared with the creation of
Adam, that God forms dust, and this divine act is more marvellous than
the birth of the Messiah of its mother. However, nobody atribue
the divinity with Adam (on him Peace!) (V Coran III 59). |
What says the Messiah, wire of Marie (Mary) on him ? |
The son of Marie never says: " I am the son of such ", since it is and was the son of
any father, neither carnal (biological) nor spiritual. Its
descent was only side
nursery school. He was neither a Jew, either a descendant of
Juda, neither a descendant of David, the prophet, nor a son of man
either a direct descendant of Adam, since he was written for him:
that it is created in the centre of his mother without the
intervention of a male seed. According to Sarwat: "the husband of Marie remained unknown during the
1st century, and Jesus was called according to the name of his mother:
the son of Maria ". During centuries, in
the Arab East, Jesus was known only by this term, as still Coran at
the beginning of VIIème century attests it. "
(Jesus the not-Jew. Sarwat Anise Al-Assiouty.
Edict. Letouny & Ané. Paris
1987 ; T II p. 150). (Bible Mc. 6:3). |
The world of the Gospel believes, hard like iron, that the Messiah wire of Marie is the "only sons" of divine Créateur. Is this true ? |
By no means. With the divine Creator to answer them: "... Nazaréniens say: "the Messiah is the son of God". Such is in their mouths, their word. They imitate the word of those which before them mécrurent. God fights them! How here are put at back! (Coran IX 30). |
Why this word "wire" in the old Writing : the Bible, the Gospel ? |
In the Gospel, the word "wire", notes the Razi Imam, is quoted in testimony of honor, just as the "friendly" word is quoted in connection with Abraham. One can thus suppose that the nazaréniens, because of the hostility of the Jews, and in order to be opposed to their bad matter, opposed to the exaggeration Jews another exaggeration in the contrary direction, by interpreting the word "wire" in an exaggerated way, giving him the direction of a real filiality. Simple people accepted this interpretation, and doctrines distort it was propagated among the followers of Ichoua (on him Peace!). (Comments). |
Was the word "wire" allotted, in the old Writings, with somebody of private individual among the prophets ? |
One said to the Seal Prophecy, the Mohammad Prophet (on
him Prière and Peace!). For proof: this word of Isaïe,
the prophet. With the Saint of Israel of him to say:
"Thanks My beloved and My Ahmad son" |
Is the unicity of God compatible with an alleged divinity of the Messiah wire of Marie ? |
By no means. The doctrines of the
divinity of the Messiah wire of Marie are incompatible with the
Unicity of divine Créateur, and it leads its author to the
Associationism. One of our eminent Savants does not write it:
"Those which say: "God has a son", reject divine Unicity,
since they give to God a Associate and so they become associateurs... "One can even say that the mécréance of a idôlatre is less serious than the mécréance nazaréniens. Because a idolâtre does not declare only the idol that it adores is the creator of the world and God of the universe. The idol is an object which makes it possible the idolâtre to return a worship to God. On the other hand the nazaréniens profess the incarnation and the union of divine in the human one, and that is a serious inaccuracy. There is thus no difference between those which profess the incarnation and the associateurs." (Comments. Razi IX/30). |
Is God enough with Itself ? |
Completely. For proof: "Nothing
other. He would have a child? Purity with Him! With
him belongs all that is in the skies and all that is on the ground.
And what a sufficient guarantee that God! (Coran IV 171). This text affirms that God suffices himself for Itself and that it does not need to have a child. Consequently, the Messiah wire of Marie perhaps "wire" of the divine Creator: God (exalté it is!). One of our eminent Scientists to write: "a child is required to be in charge of the businesses of his father. However God takes a continual care of the things. He is perfectly sufficient for that, and he does not have no need for an assistant or a successor "(Comments. IV 171). |
Can one believe that God gives birth to ? |
By no means. Divine Créateur does
not give birth to, but It creates. All that exists is a creation of God. For
proof: "It is not possible that God has a child! Purity
with Him! When It issues a command, It says to him: "Would
be!", and it is. Nothing other. (Coran XIX 35). This text affirms that it is impossible to imagine that God has a son. It specifies that all that exists is created by God and, so is lower to him. Written Zamakhchari: "This text shows the lies of the nazaréniens by affirming that that perhaps imagined, neither to come to mind, nor supposed on God, since it is impossible that God either a being similar to those which give birth to. The text shows this impossibility by affirming that when God wants a thing of any kind, It produces it while saying "Would be!". Consequently, God is above any resemblance to an animal being which gives birth to "(Comments. XIX 35). And in Baydawi to write: "God does not have no need to adopt a child, while making design a woman" (Comments. XIX 35.) Tabari: "the truth is not what these non-believers say. The Messiah is the son of Marie, who put it at the world, in the same way that the other women give birth to their children. However the birth is the fact of human, not not of the Creator of the men." (Comments. Coran V 75). Razi: "That which has a mother is a being created. By the birth, it came from nothing to the existence. However a creature cannot be regarded as God." (Commenraires. Coran V 75). |
Which direction still gives people of the Gospel to the expression"fils (son)" of God ? |
Each sect, each Church, each Temple, has its own definition for this extreme subject.
The current doctrines are that the term of "wire" should not be
taken in its literal direction, material and carnal (biological),
since it has also an illustrated smell, a moral, spiritual acceptance.
Who means report/ratio of communion, intimacy, spiritual
relation between God is the Messiah. The partisans of the Trinity thinks that the Gospel calls the Messiah the "wire" of God to reveal the incomparable mission for which God chose, to express the single character of the relation of the Messiah with God, to mean that God is in him, that the Messiah saw in communion with God, that he knows God perfectly, as a son knows his father, than it is in him that God appeared. Finally that it would have been elected for a divine, single, incomparable mission. As many things as a supposed man cannot subscribe. The exégètes, faithful to their teaching, reject in block the Christian doctrines of the divinity of the Messiah. They do not admit the dogma of the incarnation and D-incarnation, and they refuse to recognize in the Messiah the God-man or the God-Man, of the fact, and amongst other things, that this one had neither the absolute power nor the full knowledge of any thing... According to Coran, the doctrines of the divinity of the Messiah were formulated by Bible people and of the Gospel, but it is in conformity with the teaching of the Messiah himself, neither with his behavior nor with its full humanity. Thus, the Messiah is a being created, generated, similar to Wire of Adam, the remainder of the human ones. Consequently he is God neither a god, neither a person of the Trinity, nor the "wire" of God. He is simply and only the son of Marie, the slave and the servant of God. Not to confuse. |
Was Abraham called in the Writing the friend of God, and the Messiah ? |
Abraham (on him Peace!) was the close friend and
sincere of the Lord and Saint of Israel. Mochè (on him Peace!)
the privileged interlocutor of the Lord and Saint of Israel.
And the son of Marie, will you say to me? For the Koranic world, the son of Marie is and was to the Lord and of the Saint of Israel, a covered being of dignity (in Arabic, wadji' year), in this world and the other (Coran. III 45-46). In Hebrew, hakkabôd. And not a son with Him or His equal like claimed it wrongly certain biblical society peoples! Thus, on the human level, the son of Marie was that which makes and made respect its honor, and on the religious level, that which God (exalté it is!) puts at the honor. Indeed, the face (in Arabic, wadj) means honor and nobility, because it is the higher part of the body. The son of Marie was thus a person noble, large, of a high row. In this low world, the cause will be notemment Prophètie and that it can moreover cure the leprous one, theborn one, etc... In beyond, will be because of its very high degree near its Lord, who corresponds to the divine word: "of brought closer" (Coran III 45), i.e. this at the Day of the Accounts. |
Created is a share of God ? Of Its Divinity ? |
By no means. Divine Créateur divides
His divinity only with Itself. Created is thus not a "share" of
Its divinity. For proof: No God that Him!
Purity with Him of what they associate to Him (Coran IX 31). This text, like good of others, affirms with force that all that is created belongs to God and is lower to him. Consequently, nothing of what exists has share with Its divinity. And Equal To Him. |
Who is really the Messiah wire of Marie (Mary) ? A god ? A God-man ? A God-Man ? A divine son ? God Himself ? |
He is simply the son of Marie and the messenger of God near Wire of Israel. He is not God or the son of God, but he is the son of Marie, to which he is attached, and from which he draws his origin. Its birth is miraculous. It is not the fruit of an adultery or a fornication. Its birth is really miraculous, since it occurred without the intervention of a father, however it does not make of the Messiah wire of Marie "wire" (single or not) of God since its birth is compared with the creation of Adam that nobody, within traditional Islam, qualifies "wire" of God, although he had come to the existence without father nor mother. . |
What is necessary to think of those and those which say that God it is the Messiah? Is this true ? |
By no means. In fact beings express such an
ignorance and such an inaccuracy! For proof:
"They are undoubtedly non-believers those which say: "In
truth, God it is the Messiah, wire of Marie!" Whereas the
Messiah said: "O Wire of Israel, adore God, my Lord and your
Lord." Whoever, in truth, gives to God Associates (the Equal
ones to Him), eh well yes, God prohibits [ forever ] the Paradise to
him; and its refuge is Fire And for the corrupt officials, not
of secoureurs." (Coran V 72). Tabari to write: "How the nazaréniens can associate to God the Ichoua Messiah (on him Peace!), who is a creature, a slave like the others, a human being which one knows the origin and the genealogy, born from a woman, which invited the men to believe in single God, to adore it, to obey to Him, which declared "God is my Lord and your Lord!", who prohibited to give to God Associates? How the nazaréniens can say that Ichoua is their God, thus expressing such an ignorance and such a mécréance, since God is necessarily That which does not generate and which is not generated?" (Comments. Coran V 72). " Baydawi of écire also: "Considering the nazaréniens believe that Mesise carries in him the divinity and that they affirm that there is one God, it is nécessire to conclude that God is Mesie. Thus the Koranic text allots to the nazaréniens the logical conclusion of their declaration, in order to make obvious their stupidity and of discriditer their beliefs (Comments. Coran V 17). Of the same Written Razi: "Even if the nazaréniens do not say explicitly: "God is the Messiah", however such an assertion rises logically from their doctrines." (Comments. Coran V 17). |
Among the miracles of the Messiah, the resurrection of deaths. Which will be the attitude of Wire of Israel, its people, people of the Gospel vis-a-vis (with respect) to this miracle ? |
People of its people, except a small number, will
not believe in the miracles of the Messiah wire of Marie (on him
Peace!).
As for people of the Gospel, according to
their traces, they will imitate them. The interpretation to
explain amongst other things, and concerning the resurrection of died
by the Messiah: One would have said then, when it ressuscitait deaths: "It is him and it is not him". Perplexity would have resulted from (simple) shown it [ of its appearance ], make like it appears at the rationalist (Arab, Al-`âqil) who is based on the speculative reflexion when he sees somebody among human the ressusciter deaths and to exert a divine privilege! More especially as these ressuscities spoke: these were not only the animal body which took again life! The speculative one remains perplexed with the sight of a human form which achieves a divine act; so much so that some spoke about "incarnation" [ localization ] and came from there to say that, if it ressuscitait deaths, he was God! It is for that that the mécréance was charged to them ( the kufr), C be-with-statement the veil (Arab, sitr): owing to the fact that they "had veiled" God who ressuscitait [ really ] deaths in the human form of Ichoua (on him Peace !). The Almighty said: In truth in the kufr those are which said : God is Him the Messiah wire of Marie. They cumulated the deviation and the kufr if one considers their matter in his entirety ; not in (simple) made say, neither "is to Him God", nor "wire of Marie (Arab, Maryam)". They deviated from God by containing It, as a ll ressuscitait deaths, in the body form of the " nâsût " (human being) when they added "wire of Marie"; but it was wire of Marie without the slightest doubt! Indeed, that which heard their matter could imagine that they allotted the Divinity (ouloûhiyya : the divine Function) with the form, that they identified it with the latter, whereas it was nothing since they some had made divine Ipseity [Al-houwiyya. Allusion to the pronoun houwa, " Him ", which appears between " God " and " the Messiah wire of Marie " ] the subject (present) in the human form. They thus distinguished between the form and the judgement; they did not identify the form with the object of their judgement. Of the same Gabriel appeared in the shape of a man before to have insufflated; then it insufflated, revealing thus the difference between the form and blowing. On the one hand, blowing proceeded of the form [ at least seemingly ]; other, this one was (already present) before there was blowing; blowing did not form part of its essential definition. The dissension appeared between holding of different sects in connection with Ichoua (on him Peace !) : who was it thus? That which considered it in its body human form said of him: "It is the son of Marie"; that which considered it in its subtle human form attached it to Gabriel; that which considered it as it had appeared with the capacity of ressusciter deaths attached it to God by spiritual quality and said: "It is the spirit of God", i.e.: he communicates the life with that on which he blows. Sometimes, one appears oneself that he is God [ littér.: sometimes it is God who is the object of a conjecture ]; sometimes that it is an angel; sometimes that he is a carnal man: he appears with each one according to the aspect which prevails at his place. He is the verb of God; he is the spirit of God; he is the slave of God: this [ i.e. this triple Koranic qualification (Coran IV 171 and XIX 30) or this difference in opinion ] belongs only to him in the significant form where any person is attached to her "father (according to the order) formal", not with That which insufflated Its spirit in the shape of a human being [ that which insufflates is Gabriel and which it insufflates " His spirit coming of His kind ". Gabriel is a simple instrument of divine Blowing ]. When God "had harmoniously laid out" the body of the man, like he said it: When I it laid out harmoniously. It insufflated in him. He it the Almighty, of His spirit [ i.e. : directly, without the intermediary of Gabriel (Coran XV 29 and XXXVIII 72); II the spirit attached, as well in its existence as in its gasoline, with Itself. It did not go from there in the same way for Ichoua (on him Peace !), because (in its case) the harmonious provision of its body and its shape of human creature were included in blowing of the spirit, contrary to what occurs for the other men, as said we it. |
Do the miracles of the Messiah justify his divinity ? |
By no means. Contrary to the
generally accepted idea, the miracles achieved by the Messiah do not
justify his alleged its divinity, because these miracles were
achieved, actually, with the permission of God and by his capacity,
and not not by powerful that the Messiah had into clean. With the Revelation, one décrouve that all the miracles of the Messiah are and were accomplished "with the permission of God". For proof: " And here it is the messenger with the Children of Israel -: "In truth, if I come to you it is with a sign on behalf of your Lord. Yes, for you I kneaded clay a figure of bird, then I blow inside: and, by the permission of God, it is a bird. And I cured theborn one and the leprous one, and I ressuscite deaths, by the permission of God. And I teach you what you eat and what you pile up in your houses. Here well there a sign, for you, if you are believing! "(Coran III 49). "O Ichoua, sons of Marie, remember My benefit on you and your mother when I strengthened you spirit of Holiness! with the cradle you spoke to people, then like man having reached the ripe age. And when I taught the Book and wisdom and the Torah and the Gospel to you! And when you kneaded clay like a figure of bird! then you blew inside; then by My permission, it became bird. And you cured, by My permission, theborn one and the leprous one! And when, by My permission, you made leave deaths! And when I prevented of you Wire of Israel, at the moment when you brought the evidence to them! "then those of them which did not believe said: "This really is only manifest magic! "(Coran V 110) In their comments, the exégètes point out that the sentence "with My permission" is repeated in order to refute the opinion of those which imagine or claim that the Messiah carried in him the divinity. Baydawi also writes: " With the permission of God, i.e. by the capacity of God. This sentence is used to point out that to return the life to deaths is the fact of God, not that of Ichoua (on him Peace!) " Tabari to point out that diseases like blindness and leprosy are incurable diseases, that the doctors do not have a suitable remedy to cure them. And Tabari to specify finally that no one cannot claim to cure a blind man of birth or leprous, except that on which God confers a similar capacity on that which was granted to the Messiah. |
Is the Messiah the "which incarnated divine verb"? |
By no means. The exégètes specify well that the Messiah wire of Marie is attached to his Marie mother, and not with God. Its design was the effect of the "verb (or word)" of God, but the Messiah is not the which incarnated divine"verb ". And if it is attached to God, it is the fact that it came to the existence by an order from God and that he is (and was then) the "messenger" of God near Wire of Israel (Coran III 49; Bible. V MT. 5/5-6; 15, 24). |
What wants one to specify by this name: Messenger of God ? |
Tabari to write in particular : "By this name, Coran specifies the origin of Ichoua (on him Peace!). It disputes what the nazaréniens about the divine filiation of the Messiah say, and it rejects the untrue charges carried by the Jews against Marie." (Comments. Coran III 45). In the same way in Zamakhchari to write: "Coran affirms that the Messiah is the child [ legitimate ] of Marie, to which it is attached, in the same way that the children are attached to their mothers. And if it is attached to God, it is by the fact that he is His "messenger" and that he came to the existence by His order, God having created it an alive being without the contest of a father. Consequently, Coran disputes that the Messiah can be attached to God, as the children are attached to their fathers." (Coran IV 171). |
Which is the direction of the declaration of the Angels with Marie (Coran III 45) ? |
According to Coran, the Angels (which it did not see) said to Marie: "O Marie, here is that God announces a verb of His share to you..." (Coran III 45). And with the Razi Imam to specify the direction of them: "the preposition"of"does not mean part of God... but it indicates the starting point, owing to the fact that the design of Ichoua occurred without the contest of a father, by the effect of the word of God. The action of this word was manifest and total in the formation and the creation of Ichoua (on him Peace!). The word of God was the starting point of the arrival of Ichoua (on him Peace!) with the existence and of its appearance. Here are what it is necessary to understand by "a verb [ emanating ] of God", and not not what the nazaréniens think while speaking about the incarnation of God." (Comments. Coran III 45). In the same way commenting on: "Here is Ichoua, wire of Marie..." (Coran XIX 34), of saying: "There is a precise information which confirms that Ichoua is the child of Marie, his real son, and not the son of God". |
What the Trinity? Is this a Triad? A Tri-theism ? A belief approved by the divine Creator? What is this ? |
A belief and doctrines belonging exclusively to people of the Gospel. Together, according to them, of the three divine people Father, wire and saint-spirit) component only one God. Or "God the Father gives the life. "God the son" returns to the man the life which it had lost. "Holy Ghost God" maintains in the man the holy and divine life, so that the man is saved perfectly. Thus, the term of the "Trinity" does not indicate, always according to them, three Gods, but three revelations that God gave Itself! As many beliefs as any supposed man cannot subscribe... |
Is the doctrines Trinitaire (Trinity) it what ? |
Here it is summarized again by the Razi Imam (that
God makes him mercy!) : "Only one substance in three
people: Father, wire and saint-spirit; and these three are
only one God ". It is the same as in the term for sun which
includes/understands the star, the light and heat. By the word
"Father", the nazaréniens indicate To be it, by the word "wire" the
verb, and by the word "spirit" the life. They prove reality To
be it, of the verb and the life. They say that the verb is the
word of God who mixed with the body with Ichoua (on him Peace!),
as water mixes with the wine or milk. They think that the
Father is God, the son is God and the spirit is God, and these three
are only one God ". And it concludes: It is there of vain remarks, whose falseness is obvious; because "three" cannot be "one", and "one" cannot be "three". Undoubtedly, there is not falser and vainer than the remarks of the nazaréniens. |
Were these doctrines conforms to biblical teaching ? Prophets ? |
By no means. God by no means taught
turpitude and the blâmable with His creatures. For proof:
"O people of the Book (of the Bible), do not exaggerate in your
religion, and say of God only the truth. The Ichoua Messiah,
wire of Marie, are never but a one messenger of God, His word which It
projected towards Marie, a spirit [ emanating ] of Him thus Believe in
a God [ Only and Single ] and in His messengers [ of which the Messiah
]. And do not say "Three". cease! it will be better
for you [ in your immediate life and at the Day of the Accounts ].
God is only one God. Nothing other. He would have a
child? Purity with Him? With Him belongs all that is in
the skies and all that is on the ground. And which sufficient
guarantee that God. Never the Messiah will scorn to be slave of God, and either the brought closer angels. (Coran IV 171-2). In the same way: They are undoubtedly non-believers [ irreligious person-dissimulators ] those which say: "In truth, God is third of the three [ by the spirit ]. Whereas there is of God only God alone! " Divine warning: And if they do not cease their statement, doubtless a painful punishment will reach those of them which mécréoient. Hope: Don't they thus go repentance to God, nor to beseech forgiveness to Him? Because God is a pardonnor, miséricordieux. Identity of the Messiah and his mother. The Messiah, wire of Marie, were only a one messenger. Messengers certainly before him passed. And his/her mother was veracious. And all two ate with the meal! Here as We expose the signs to them, and then see as they are diverted some! (Coran V 73-5). |
Thus God clearly affirms that It is One in Its gasoline, One in His attributes, One in His actions and One in His kingdom... |
Without any doubt. This
passage quoted above, means that God, in His absolute transcendence,
as "a deus absconditus" cannot "be" with the same degree as one of
these three hypostases under which It is conceived in the dogma of the
Trinity, the Absolute, Unique in Its gasoline, not being able to enter
in relation to anything of other than Itself. God, from His function of divinity (Arab, ouloûha) and from His function to be the single one adored (Arab, 'ibâda), cannot be generated, cannot engender nor have of partner. Also God affirms it then the transcendence, the magnificence and the rise of Its clean "Nature" (nafs), too sublime and glorious so that these things can be allotted to Him which affirms the irreligious person-dissimulators, and He says about Itself: Would it have a child? Purity with Him! God lets then know with His slaves that " what is in the Skies and on the Earth " belongs Him i.e. Ichoua, Marie, and all the beings form part of Its kingdom (Arab, moulk) and of Its creation (Arab, khalq), that It is of this fact their Creator (Arab, khâliq), their Provider (Arab, râziq) and their Manager (Arab, to moudabbir), and that all are in a state of need for Him And with all them beings of the Skies and the Earth, God is enough like Sustentateur (Arab, qayyim), Régisseur (Arab, to moudabbir) and Provider (Arab, râziq) so that they need to address to another only Him. And in all that the Messiah will not scorn, will not have any shame to be slave of God. (V Commentaires. Tabari.) |
For which reasons the Wire of Israel, people of the Bible did make of the Messiah wire of Marie a divinity equal to divine Créateur (Creator) ? Moreover, certain people Gospel to claim it well to adore God, but as a Jesus-Christ ! Is this there the true way of the worship ? And since when this belief exist does in the biblical world ? |
It is by no means the true way of the worship. Biblical xégètes ditont they not: God is as a
Christ. He speaks. It acts. He makes known himself.
For proof: (Bible Mc. 1/11; I. 14/9-10.
It is in communion with God. In the Messiah It I appear.
1 18; etc.) According to the exégètes:
Concerning the Messiah, wire of Marie (on him Peace!), it
was said that it had appeared in this world under the names:
Time (or according to a biblical language: alpha and the
omega. Bible. Ap./Rév. of I 1: 8) and
Remaining it. It was also said that it fasted the whole year without breaking only once its fast. From where its name: time (To compare: Bible. MT. 4: 2, 8-11). As for its nights, it took care and did not sleep. From where its other name: remaining [ that neither somnolence nor sleep takes ] (To compare: Coran II 255). At this point in time people of his people statement of him, which he was a divinity, the equal one of the Almighty : "In truth, God is Itself the Messiah, the son of Marie!" (Coran V 72). This word was never known as before that. At most, one had said of such is or was the son of divine Créateur (V Coran IX 30) In the same way, the Messiah will invite his people, of his time, to adore the Saint and Lord of Israel. For proof: "O Wire of Israel, adore God, my Lord and your Lord." (Coran V 72.Comparer: Bible. Jn 20.17.). But them of rétorquer: "Thus we make". They adored God in him then ?! At this point in time he says to them: "Whoever, gives to God Associates (the Equal ones to Him), then God prohibits to him, certainly, the Paradise; and its refuge is Fire (Coran V. 72. To compare Paul: Bible. The mystery of the Messiah. Collar. 1: 19; 2: 9; Eph. 1: 23; 3: 19; 4: 13; Rm. 12: 5; I Cor.12: 12-27.) This belief and this practice will be taken again and renewed, later, by Paul and his disciples, then the Churches and the Temples of the world evangelic. This until our days. |
The Messiah is called "Lord", "Our Lord J.C." by people of the Gospel. Is this logical ? |
By no means. But such is the teaching and the
command of Paul to his followers. For him all will
have to kneel, in the skies and the ground, to recognize.... And
all will have to proclaim that he is "Lord" (Phil Bible. 2/9-11;
to see Rm 10/9; 1 Co 12/3). And in the Messiah is
only one Lord (Romanian Bible. 10/12, and following).
And at one time, one awaited with enthusiasm the return of the
exalté Messiah, i.e. taking part in the divine seigneurery (MT Bible.
25/31; ac 7/55)! As many things as any judicious
spirit cannot accept. Also, with the Lord and Saint of Israel
and of the worlds to reveal with people of the Bible: "They took their doctors [ Jews ] and their monks [ nazaréniens ], just like the Messiah wire of Marie, for Lords apart from God, whereas one ordered to them to adore single God. No God that Him! Purity with Him of what they associate to him! (Coran IX 31). People of the Bible "adore", i.e. lend (or lent) allegiance to their religious Dignitaries [ and policies ] when those declare the illicit licit one and conversely. Change or circumvent the divine laws. Here is their worship. |
What says the Lord of the worlds for those and those which believe legitimates the worship of the Messiah and his mother, Marie (Mary) ? |
With the Saint and Lord of Israel and worlds to reveal to
them: II would not be appropriate to a man to whom God gives the Book and the wisdom and the dignity of prophet, of saying to people then: "Be me admirers in margin of God"; but: "Be truths excessively pious people of the Lord, since you teach the Book and since you study it" And it will not order you to take for Seigneurs angels and prophets! Will it make you command of mécréance now that you here are Soumis? (Coran III 79-80) And when God says: "O Ichoua sons of Marie, is this you which said to people: "Take to me, like my mother, for two divinities apart from God? "he will say: "Purity with You! What would I have to say it to what I do not have any right? If I had said it, then You would have known it, certainly: You know what there is in me, and I do not know what there is in You. You are, in truth, the large expert of the invisible ones. I said only to them what You had ordered me, namely: ' Adore God, my Lord just like your Lord.' And I remained pilot on them as a long time as I remained among them. Then when You completed me, it is You which remained their supervisor. And You are pilot on any thing (cf Bible. Mathieu IV, 10, Luc IV, 8, etc. Indeed Jesus does not say nowhere in the Gospels: "I am God", quite to the contrary: he is proud to be slave of God, cf IV, 172 and notes and Matthieu Xll, 18.) If You punish them, then, really, they are Your slaves. And if You forgive them, then, really, it is You the powerful one, the wise one " God will say: "Here is the day when them veracity will benefit the veracious ones: with them Gardens under what run the brooks to remain there eternally for always. God will approve them, and they will approve It. Here is enormous success! " With God royalty of the skies and ground and of what is in them. And II is able of all. (Coran V 116-120). It is there, write the exégètes, a refutation addressed to those and with those which believe the worship of Ichoua legitimates (on him Peace!)... It is not possible that a man, of which God made a prophet, a representative with Him, which it A establishes to invite the men to hold the worship with God alone and to give him any associate, it is not possible that such a man ordered with the others to become his admirers, his slaves and servants. And in Tabari to exclaim: "How Ichoua (on him Peace!) would it have it says, since it is a creature and a slave, and that his/her mother is a slave? How a slave and a slave have would claims in Seigneurerie? Undoubtedly, Ichoua (on him Peace!) is innocent this say of him and his/her mother the nazaréniens non-believers." (Comments. Coran V 116). |
At will the day of the Accounts, the Messiah, wire of Marie have thus to answer of the acts and facts of its community ? |
Without any doubt. A herald will shout: "Where is Ichoua wire of Marie? "One will make it come. Then God will question it: "this Is you which said to people: " Take to me, like my mother, for two divinities apart from God? " Ichoua (on him Peace!) will then put itself, as long as it will be able, to proclaim the praises of God and to make great praises of them. Then it will be turned over against itself to blame themselves and vilify themselves, and it will say: " Purity with You! What would I have to say it to what I do not have any right? If I had said it, then You would have known it, certainly: You know what there is in me, and I do not know what there is in You. You are, in truth, the large expert of the invisible ones. " God will laugh (of them), then It will say: "Here is the day when them veracity will benefit the veracious ones! You say true, ô Ichoua. Return to your pulpit and recites the Gospel aloud that Gabriel transmitted to you! "He will say: " Amen, Lord! "and it will go up to read there. All the heads will be turned over towards him so much the echo of its voice and the chant of its recitation is pleasant to hear; because it is most skilful of men DNS the diction of the Gospel which will seem, then, in its mouth, so fresh and so nine that the moînes will believe to have known any verse of it. The nazaréniens will be divided then in two groups: irreligious people (or non-believers) of between-them with the irreligious people and believing them with believing." (Ghazâli, Dourra.) |
Do these doctrines of people of the Gospel go back to when ? |
4e century of the evangelic era. The
religious Dignitaries notice and recognize that these doctrines were
not formulated by the disciples of the Messiah, but at the fourth
century, after a long period of reflexion and dispute theological.
In this case that become those and those which never knew that.
Will they be damnés or elected? In addition, the dogma trinitaire and christologic did not obtain the adhesion unanimous of the nazaréniens, which caused schisms (or sects), and, on behalf of the reigning Authorities, measurements of coercion and persecutions against recalcitrant qualified heretics. These divisions had as a result to always weaken the Church of the East, which could not resist, according to them, with the expansion of the Islamic religion, whose dogmas are simple and comprehensible. Héraclius 1er. Byzantine emperor (610-640), founder of the dynasty of Héraclides (610-711). Regarded in the history as one of the largest Byzantine emperors. It wanted to alleviate the religious quarrel by a compromise which succeeds, in the world of the Gospel, with the monothelism. In its time, it imposed the Greek like official language and inaugurated the hellenisation of the Byzantine Empire. The last years of its reign were in particular remembered by the invitation of the Seal of Prophecy to embrace Islam, and the arrival finally of the Islamic forces out of grounds of Châm, Egypt and in the frontier provinces of the East. His/her son Héraclius II reigned less than one year (641-642). Isn't persecutions, divisions between Churches, the fratricidal wars between people of the Gospel, all this not mentioned in Coran? For proof: Thereafter, from the parties diverged between them. With those which mécroient, therefore misfortune, because of the appearance of the enormous Day! (Coran XIX 37). Of a share, one finds, during and after the rise in the Messiah, the world toranic which treated it of liar, as a seducer who deceives Israel and of magician (Coran LXI 6). In addition, people of the Gospel who adored it... But for little time. The arrival of Paul was going to change all the court of the history... |
Who is Paul ? |
The appreciations diverge within the biblical world. Very
mysterious
man, according to the exégètes, which will denature the
religion of the Messiah. With the typically divine origin, it
denatured the message evangelic, in there integral of the elements
specific to the sects Jewish of the time. It will take again on
its account all that the Wire of Israel and Judaïsés could say, say
or ouïdire in good or evil on the Messiah. It will invent
Christianity. In short, an individual able to serve the
interests of its religion, his, at its time. Who was this last?
A son of Israel? A Son of Esaü? One judaïzed?
For some, he was a prince or a king iduméen, in his time, which
will fight, with his army, the followers of the Messiah.
Understanding that it could not come to end from these people,
it rather preferred to have them by the trick. Its new plan:
to go to to ask them, them forgiveness, and to ask
to enter of full foot their community. It will excel then in its
capacity of seduction. It will be claimed to be the apostle of
the not-Jews. He will inaugurate a new vision of the religion
which he will submit to three disciples that he will have taken care
to form: Jacob, Nestor and Melkite. This being made, it
will require to join, only, Jerusalem to go to sacrifice itself in
the Place of the sacrifices. These disciples will join it and it
is there that will begin the major problems of people of the Gospel.
From where word of the Saint and Lord of Israel and the worlds: A group of Wire of Israel, therefore, believed,
while a mécrut group. Then we helped those which believed,
counters their enemy; they thus became triumphing. (Coran LXI 14). For that one said that the auxiliaries (Twelve) will succeed, after the rise in the Messiah (on him Peace!), to triumph over their enemies; by the use of evidence convainquantes and peremptory arguments. One brought back notemment those that they said: "you did not know only Ichoua (on him Peace!) slept whereas God never sleeps? And that it ate whereas God Très-haut does not eat?" It is with such arguments that they triumphed over their enemies. A parodic Gospel! To the beginning of Xe century, one says us, in certain Jewish communities of Central Europe starts to circulate discreetly a writing having for title Toledot Yéchou, which one could translate by " the stories of Jesus ", or " the history of Jesus ", or " captions It of Jesus "... The text expresses a deep concern in front of the fact that the followers of that which they regarded as a false Messiah continuous to claim religion of Moïse and which some of them practise the rites. It was necessary to also counter this new danger. One thus decided to entrust to a man wise and right, named Elie, an extraordinary mission. The Old ones decided to take on them the spiritual responsability for all the sins that Elie went makes to make so that the partisans of Jesus, who awaited his return on ground, give up practise Jewish: respect of the Sabbath, circumcision, rules food and biblical festivals. It was not necessary that these can proclaim that they remained Jewish, that they were faithful to the Torah. Actually, they prevented the entry of the Temple. They had absolutely to be moved away from the Law. They had to be obliged to leave "our Torah"... And extraordinary thing: Elie, recognized by the Christians, was called holy Paul! ... Toledot Yéchoua are not a against-Gospel blasphématoire. Jesus is simply introduced there as a seducer who deceives Israel. The paradox is that this popular gasoline text (it will be repeated it never enough), while contradicting the intervention of Jesus briskly, at the point to denature all the episodes of its life, does not remain about it less one confirmation of the evangelic historicity of the account. All occurs as if the authors of the lampoon had left the reality of the facts exposed by the Gospel to show not falseness of it, but another face, a back as coherent as the known and accepted face. (see the Christian question. Gerard Israel. Edict. Payot). Conclusion: The words fly away, but the writings remain. The implication of Wire of Israel and Judaïsés in the mislaying of their brothers Nazaréniens is manifest. And at the Day of the Accounts, they will take a heavy responsibility for there. Not cash of avoit hated the Messiah and his mother, they will thus carry out a hard combat to prevent which one follows the religion of the Messiah wire of Marie (on him Peace!). |
What made fall people of the Gospel after Paul ? |
A word, only one. We brought it back in our study. This word is Greek: krasis (mixture). With Irenee, appears the thesis of a mixture (krasis) of two natures, the flesh and the spirit. The stoical origin of the term would indicate that the union is absolute, without each nature losing its properties. Trinitaires will be made a pleasure of employing it. Thus in the Messiah will be, according to them, two distinct natures which will cohabit together: one human, the other divine one! For the monophysites, the Messiah aurau, on the other hand, that only one nature: divine nature. Its principal representative is Euthychès. |
People of the Bible of Greece thus take a heavy responsibility in the history. |
Yes, and this near their community and the whole of
people of the Gospel. In Islam also. For
proof: . One agrees to show the harmful influence of some " Greeks " who propagated and invented these errors. These " Greeks " are the Byzantines who were driven out Byzantine Empire after the fall of Constantinople in 1453, and which, by hatred and revenge spread on Islam, the religion of the Turks who drove out them, the worst lies. Jacob Ehrhart quotes on this subject this sentence of Crosio, in the historical Essays on various subjects (p. 21): " One is much better informed today, than one was it in the centuries spent, of the dogmas and the course of the life of the Mahomet Prophet. The Fables... that the Greeks formerly output on the origin of the Islamic religion are now confused by rather ancient testimonys "(p. 47). Among these Greeks, it mentions Theophane (p. 48). Reland speaks about it with contempt. After having shown that the first cause of the errors about Islam and of its founder is the fact that the Western authors did not know the Arab language, he says: " to this ignorance, on behalf of our Western authors, add the zeal babillard and liar of unquestionable small-Greeks, who live among them, and which, instead of knowing them and to study them as well as their crowned language, for a long time have fun with us to represent them with all the bad faith which can inspire hatred and the resentment counters victorious enemies to be strictly accurate, when the zeal of religion also puts part, we hardly have but false talks of the religion mahométane; and it is what made me take the resolution, not only to give true, in the summary which one has just seen (i.e.: the ` Aqîdah), but to even justify it on many things that one allots to him badly by the way "(tr. france p. 68-69). |
Traditional Islam categorically rejects the real death of the Messiah. If one follows the reasoning of people of the Gospel, not of thus dead not of reincarnation, therefore not of Resurrection ? |
By no means. According to our
exégètes, the fact that the Ichoua Messiah (on him Peace!)
1°) came in the world in a miraculous
way, and 2°)
that it received of its Lord the possibility of ressuciter
deaths; it was there the irrefutable proof
for Wire of Israel of a Resurrection, of another Life, for them all,
after death. But the biblical world goes, after the rise in the
Messiah, to be divided into two distinsts groups: 1°) negationnists. The Wire of Israel and Judaïsés which refused to believe and recognize the prophetic mission of the Messiah, its miraculous birth + its miracles of which that of ressusciter deaths, in particular. 2°) people of the Associationism of the Distinction. The Wire of Israel and Judaïsés which will prétenderont, them, which the Messiah had of the divine prerogatives. Among them, the called Paul and his following: MT 1: 20, 2: 11, 4: 8-11; Lc. 1: 32, 35; Apoc/Rév. I. 1: 8. Secondly: To justify alleged dead of the son of Marie (on the cross or by hanging. Coran IV 157), it was necessary to support a whole kind of strategy. Indeed, the called Paul, Father of Trithéisme, the Incarnation, etc, its three disciples: Jacob, Nestor and Malchus, the anonymities writers of the Gospels; made a point all of supporting their statement of a parallel probator seizing with supposed prophecies on alleged died of the son of Marie. However, that which knew really Death, it is his/her cousin, i.e., the son of Zacharie (on them Peace!). It is him, like his/her father, that Judaïsés decapitated. He, this sign of the Life. Aren't the martyrs, is, those which are killed in the path of God, alive? (Coran II 154). It did not receive from its Lord, like name: " it saw " (Arab, Yahya, Hebrew, Hou Yèhyè)? (Coran III 39). Paul, will thus take care well not to speak to us, in his so-called writings, of the son of Zacharie (on them Peace!). All will be done, on the contrary, to direct people of the Gospel on and towards another person, namely, the son of Marie (on him Peace!). However, just as the "spirit" and the "life" are indissociable, the same these two prophets, Ichoua and You Yèhyè (Jean), is inseparable. That the biblical world never seems to have really included/understood it. Moreover, Paul, while thus acting, didn't he want to cover his brothers in religion? This is not the Wire of Israel and Judaïsés which will kill Zacharie and his/her son (on them Peace!). To hear people of the Synagogue nowadays, by no means! However, the Gospel, Coran and the Tradition will attest the opposite. |
Can the safety of the man be by the symbol of people of the Gospel, namely the cross ? |
By no means. And if that were
true, Coran would never have been revealed, and it would have been
confirmed, by him, the real
death of the Messiah. However such was not the case since
it was withdrawn from Wire of Israel, in Judaïsés and that "other"
was put at died at its place. On the contrary, at the rvelation
of Coran, the Saint and Lord of Israel and the worlds clarified
certain action of Wire of Israel and Judaïsés à/de this time, until
there censured, hidden with large the public.Au hello of the man by
the "cross" or "hanging" for others; was opposed and proposed
the safety of the man by "Knowledge". Thus, vivification by knowledge, it is the Life divine, essential, higher, luminous, of which God (exalté he is!) described in Coran VI 122. Whoever vivifies a heart died by the life of knowledge in any field attached to the knowledge of God, really vivifies it, this particular knowledge being for this heart like a light with which it goes among people... It was said that God the Almighty said: "O Mohammad! Admittedly, I will reduce on you, a News-Torah [ Coran ]. By it, you will open plugged eyes, deaf ears, hearts incirconcis. It will leave science, the comprehension of wisdom and the spring rain of the hearts." |
What did the Lord of the Universe order with people of the Bible ? |
This : It was ordered to them, however, to adore God, by purifying for Him the religion, into sincere, and to establish the Prayer and to discharge the tax (legal). And here is the religion of uprightness! (Coran XCVII 5). |
Which engagement existed between God, Seigneur of the men and people of the Gospel ? |
This one: And of those which say:
"We are Nazaréniens", We pledged. But they forgot a part
of it by what one recalled them. We thus caused between them the
enmity and hatred until the day of resurrection. And God soon
will inform them of what they did. God wants to say this : We as pledged of Nazaréniens to obey Us, to recognize as Our envoys are veracious and to follow them. However they followed in this field the same way as those of the Jews which were mislaid : they modified their religion, broken their pacts and given up a share of it with what they were held. " We thus caused between them the enmity and hatred until the day of Resurrection. "by dropping them under the influence from their passions, which led them to diverge the ones from the others. Ibrahîm Nakhî said in connection with this passage : " God let carry the ones against the others because of the quarrels which they maintained in their contreverses that they had about the religion ". And bringing back these words of Mou' awiya wire of Qourrâ : " the quarrels in the religion make the?uvres null and void ". Finally Tabari to specify : " If somebody asks us which was this hostility which had emerged between Nazaréniens and of which it is here an especially question, we will answer that they were the dissenssions between Nestoriens, Jacobites and Melkites. "Is the three disciples of Paul, the author and Master of these dissenssions and quarrels without end. |
Is this true that our religion lowers the Messiah wire of Marie ? |
By no means : Certain people of
the Gospel say to us : One cannot approve that
Muhammad is presented like "Better" prophets, the "Guide" of humanity,
the "Messenger" of God par excellence, that whose teaching and life
constitute the rule and the model to be followed... You formulated, moreover, dogmatic precise to fight the Christian faith, affirming the divine origin of Coran and the aspotolat of Muhammad, rejecting the Bible under pretext which it was falsified and which Coran repealed, lowering Jesus-Christ to the row of the other prophets, exciting Muhammad, granting the "primacy", "preeminence to him", describing it as divine "Messenger" par excellence. You estimate amongst other things that Jesus is taller than Moïse, and than Muhammad is larger than Jesus. The criterion of the size in the apostolate depend on the succession in time that you make: - Jesus is posterior in Moïse consequently it is taller than him - Muhammad is posterior to Jesus It is largest of the prophets. Islam thus grants to Muhammad the place of honor... This is inadmissible and we cannot accept it! This kind of matter are exactly the same ones as emitted people of the Bible at the time even of the Revelation. That one judges some: According to the son of Abbas, indeed: "people of the various religions were in controversy: people of the Torah affirmed with the others: Our Book is best Books [ revealed ]; it was revealed before yours and our prophet [ Mochè ] is best prophets! People of the Gospel said the same thing. Finally people of Islam said: It not of another religion that Islam, our Book [ Coran ] repeals all the Books [ former ] and our Prophet is the Seal of the prophets there. You received and we received the order to believe in your Book and us, we put ours in addition in practice. God judged between them by revealing these verses: "It is not according to your assumptions nor according to assumptions' of People of the Book : whoever made an evil will be sanctioned consequently... " Then God made known the best among people of the various religions while saying: "Which thus is of better religion that that which submits its vis-a-vis to God while acting perfectly and follows Dictation (in Arabic, millah) of Abraham in an orthodoxe way ? however God taken Abraham for Close friend (in Arabic, khalil) ". Dahhaq has also says him: "people of the various
religions competed of pride. |
Can people of the Bible, of the Gospel be treated the inaccurate ones ? |
People of the Bible whose people of the Gospel believe in a Book revealed on behalf of their Lord. However, their Lord revealed that they were inaccurate with their Alliances, non-believers with the divine signs, etc. It is only in this direction. It is necessary to avoid the drifts in the language, especially when one does not know what one says. |
In short, what us differ of people of the Gospel ? |
Firstly: two essential things. 1°) according
to them God is substance (also
the Messiah is consubtanciel with the Father!) whereas for us It
is gasoline (the Messiah
substance). 2°) a divine attribute (in the occurance word), and
always according to them, can be a god and be incarnated...
What traditional Islam rejects categorically.
Secondly: The description of the Seal of Prophecy, the Mohammad Prophet (on him Prayer and Peace!), its attributes, the description of his/her companions, our community; all that was in the original Gospel (V Coran LXI 6). What people of the Gospel obviously deny and reject. |
And of the society peoples toranic ? |
People of the Torah hated the Messiah wire of Marie and her mother. That pushed to say on them extravagances, even abominable things. Traditional Islam believes in the Gospel (original), with the Messiah, Marie, the Twelve... It thus takes care well not to be aligned on the toranic position of the world. It does not fight and is not opposed to the message of the Gospel, on the contrary, it defends it such as it was in the primitive time. That considerable people of the Gospel is unaware of it or does not include/understand it. |
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